MAGA’s Volksgemeinschaft

I’m still stuck thinking about this comment this morning.

“National socialism creates a Volksgemeinschaft by breaking down sectarian and class barriers. Trumpism turns whites against one another based on class and religion.”

This is deeply wrong.

The truth is that Southern White evangelical Protestants are the MAGA base and Trump has achieved a level of unity among them that dwarfs anything Hitler ever created in Germany. The highest percentage of the vote that the NSDAP ever won before Hitler came to power was only 37%. Even with the pressure to conform in the last contested election, the Nazis only won a mere 44%.

Class politics doesn’t exist in the American South. White evangelical Protestants who attend church on a weekly basis voted over 90% for Trump in the 2024 election. We went through the data and found that around 85% of White evangelical Protestants and anywhere from 60% to 82% of White Southerners voted for Trump. He also had monolithic political support in the White rural South. In the South, he won the White working class, White middle class, White upper class, men, women, etc.

The “Volksgemeinschaft” that Hitler created in Germany was achieved by winning over the Right, forging an alliance with German conservatives and suppressing the opposition. In contrast, Trump easily commands overwhelming, heartfelt and voluntary political support from White Southern Protestants, and public opinion is so lopsided here that the Left barely exists. MAGA is a “volkish” movement that has a level of ethnic and religious cohesion that never existed in Hitler’s Germany. Trump also doesn’t deserve credit for this. Southern politics has always been much more racially driven than German politics.

What is the “NS” Volksgemeinschaft in America in 2025?

You are talking about alienated people on the internet, overwhelmingly single men, scattered across the country who are history nerds, disconnected from their communities, who are posting on online forums, who are being socialized in echo chambers and who are going through an identity crisis. This isn’t anything like a “Volksgemeinschaft.” There are plenty of towns in America in the Midwest which are culturally cohesive, deeply rooted, overwhelmingly MAGA. Trump commands the support of a majority of White Americans, a large majority of White Protestants, over half of White Catholics and 20% of his supporters are secular or irreligious. He is in a stronger position with White Americans than Hitler was with Germans in 1932. He is also long past the stage where conservatives are restraining him.

Go to any MAGA rally and you will find young, old and middle aged White people, Christians of all varieties, working class, middle class and upper class White people, rural voters, small town residents, suburbanites, radicalized urbanites, men and women, professionals, MAGA grannies, college graduates and high school drop outs. It has broad appeal because most White Americans support Trump. In contrast, the “NS” Volksgemeinschaft consists of EXACTLY ONE TYPE of White person: single men who are either divorced or incels, who are overwhelmingly pagans or irreligious or childless atheists, who are tiresome monomaniacal cranks who blame all their problems on Jews or Christians or White women, who are completely out of touch with reality and disconnected from everyone around them and usually their own families. They are the people who get worked up and scream at their relatives about the Jews at Thanksgiving.

The online “NS” Volksgemeinschaft can be further broken down into distinct sub types: violent accelerationist cranks, the feds whose job it is to monitor them, criminals like Marcus Cicero, nihilists, schizos, leftist and non-White trolls pretending to be rightwing, the antisocial edgelords who dress up in costumes and who are there to give a middle finger to society, crypt keepers, paranoid conspiracy theorists, broke internet clowns monetizing engagement, manic depressive losers who see everything in life through a negative lens, people who hate Christians, the overeducated history and philosophy nerds, lots of people who are just naturally hateful, low IQ antisemites who respond to crude propaganda, high IQ antisemites who use the propaganda as a tactic, the sociopaths who celebrated Charlie Kirk’s murder. There are some other people who are idealistic, driven by nostalgia and who identify with a label, but they will never get anywhere with this kind of coalition and their efforts are dragged down to its level.

Can you create a nationalist and patriotic movement with weird alienated people who hate their country and its symbols? No.

Can you succeed in politics with people who do not believe in political organizing? No, again.

Can you attract popular support by engaging in sociopathic behavior and outbursts? No, again.

Can you be a “revolutionary” without doing anything more “revolutionary” than whining to a group chat on Telegram? No, again.

Is a group chat or an internet forum a Volksgemeinschaft? No, again.

Can people who do not have their own families or who are alienated from their family create a Volksgemeinschaft by posting lots of angry comments on the internet or dressing up like Spiderman and marching down Main Street with Chud Tribe? No, again.

Is there such a thing as an American folk movement which doesn’t include White women or Christians? No, again. Not even close.

You are the average of the five people you spend the most time with in life.

If you surround yourself with schizos, losers, feds, sociopaths, manic depressives and clowns, you will sink down to their level. There are countless things that I could point out that I dislike about MAGA (see Israel), but the average MAGA supporter is someone like Corey Comperatore who is a net positive to society. That was one of the reasons why I supported Trump in the 2024 election.

Am I angry and being overly harsh here? Probably.

I am not trying to offer some kind of unqualified defense of MAGA. I do think it has far more going it than “NS” though. I would rather work to pull MAGA in a more radical direction than waste my time on “NS” which decades of experience has shown to be an utterly hopeless lost cause by comparison.

Source: https://occidentaldissent.com/2025/10/01/magas-volksgemeinschaft/