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Amazing,
I Like your style Truthseeker!
When our Father sets precedence on a matter, it is SET, He means what He says & says what He means!
You clearly explained Father’s Sabbath, the 7th day was the model at creation that Established the Divine Order of Precedent for the 7th day from then on….Sabbath. …..
Was God tirred? Did He need to sit & rest for a while? Take a load off His feet?
Perfection is Perfection. Perfection changes NOT! In His foreknowledge Father knew all humans need rest. He demonstrated Perfect rest at creation & saw it was very good.
Imagine what He does inside of us who keep His Sabbath!!!
I like the way you describe the way you see things. Father supplies the eyes.
Thank you for this TS, it’s very moving & humbling thinking of Father this way.
I am coming to the conclusion that most care not at all for sound doctrine but will run after UFO’s, demons, paganism and anything disconnected from logic, common sense and morality.
Too much fluoride and chemtrail dust. It’s not entirely their fault.
That’s why one of the first things He does when we seek His Face is to clear our head — oftentimes with a good SMACK.
Whatever it takes.
Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into His Rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
Lies-seeker has come short of it with his Sabbath Keeping = Law Keeping.
Heb 4:2 For unto us was The Gospel preached, as well as unto them: but The Word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
The Word preached has not profited Lies-Seeker because his SLAVE-ATION, not being being mixed with Faith, is based upon obedience to The Law – Sabbath Keeping.
Heb 4:3 FOR WE WHICH HAVE BELIEVED DO ENTER INTO REST, as He said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into MY REST: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Heb 4:4 For He spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all His works.
HIS REST is likened to God resting on the seventh day.
Heb 4:5 And in this place AGAIN, If they shall enter into MY REST.
Yashua Anointed through the author says it twice – If they shall enter into MY REST.
When is Lies-seeker going to enter therein?
Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
Lies-seeker has not entered in to HIS REST due to his unbelief.
Heb 4:7 Again, He limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear His voice, harden not your hearts.
Has Lies-seeker heard Yashua Anointed’s voice or has he hardened his heart?
Heb 4:8 For if Jesus had given them REST, then would He not afterward have spoken of another day.
If Yashua Anointed had given them HIS REST, would He have spoken of a day of rest? Not likely.
Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a REST to the people of God.
There is a REST to the people of God and Sabbath Keeping for those who are NOT of God.
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into HIS REST, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
I have entered into HIS REST and have ceased from my own works, but lies-seeker has not.
When is Lies-seeker going to do the same and enter into Yashua Anointed’s eternal REST?
yestotruth
If you will research a little, Hebrews 4:9 says “So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God”
Did you bother to read the part about if the Law was done away, which it is not, that would remove the 4th Commandment but the Sabbath was made Holy on the 7th Day of Creation and set apart for Holy use. The Sabbath is a separate issue from the Law.
If the 7th Day Sabbath remains Holy from the day of its creation and is set aside for Holy use please show me where the 1st day was set aside for a very special and Holy event — the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Because if the 1st day is not Holy how could it be used for one of the Holiest events in history? If Christ was resurrected on the Sabbath, which He was, it shows it remains in Holy use.
yes2truth, follow what your name implies, answer the questions I just put to you truthfully.
and I will answer truthfully as well, I will enter my Father’s rest when I am born again into Spirit immortality into His Family as His Son and I will then rest from the labor of being a carnal human being just like you are even right at this moment.
Please tell me if a 25 year old drop dead gorgeous girl perfect in every way offered herself to you – it will cause you not one problem?? And if you tell me that lusting after her in your mind is not sin, we are in different Bibles. I fight sin every day and will until the resurrection.
It is called enduring until the end! The worst thing we must endure is ourselves.
Dr. Samuele Bacchiocchi was the first and last non-Catholic to have ever been allowed the “priviledge” of studying at one of the top catholic universities. He had access to all their archives and chose to do his dissertation on Sabbath/Sunday. He got his degree (legitimized complete with the Vatican stamp of approval) and caused such a stir that they never again took a non-Catholic as a student.
Absolutely amazing discoveries this man made!!! Google him…
To get back to your article,.. I beg to differ. Jesus was resurrected on Sunday/First day of the week, but this does not make the day holy, neither does God want this day to be kept.
John 2:19-21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in THREE DAYS I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body.
It is important to understand that the issue is not the question of which day, but rather WHO’S AUTHORITY. The fact that God chose a day as HIS SIGN (seal/MARK/oath), is incidental.
@ Truthseeker: The fact that the catholic church chose to transfer the solemnity of Saturday to Sunday proves (according to them), that their church is above the Bible. They are also not afraid to call this change (SIGNificance of it) their MARK of ecclesiastical authority… You should read up about “BLUE LAWS”. These laws are very interesting BECAUSE THEY ARE CIVIL (with a religious twist) as you will find in your research. THEY WILL BE INFORCED WORLDWIDE… and nobody will be able to buy or sell on Sundays. They might even push these on us under the guise of Sunday being a day for the family. ALL SHOPS WILL BE CLOSED ON SUNDAYS and automatically by being forced to do so, YOU ACCEPT THE AUTHORITY OF THE POPE.
CHURCH & STATE are coming together! This is dangerous because they are creating a world religion through civil legislation… This is what is starting to happen now and WHEN the INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL COLLAPSE comes, satan has achieved his goal…
Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, OR in his hand,
Forehead (cognitive part of the brain – this is where decision making happens) FOR OR AGAINST SOMETHING, but notice the “OR” in the above verse of scripture
FOREHEAD – think accordingly
HAND – act accordingly
My point with this being that the devil is happy with either (whether forced or not, to do
something), BUT GOD ON THE OTHER HAND (no pun intended) insists on both and in truth… and I will prove this by Scripture…
Deuteronomy 11:18 You shall therefore lay up these words of mine in your heart and in your soul, and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.
Exodus 13:9 And it shall be to you as a sign on your hand and as a memorial between your eyes, that the law of the Lord may be in your mouth. For with a strong hand the Lord has brought you out of Egypt.
God’s 4th Commandment (REMEMBER MY SABBATH) is the stamp that authenticates His whole Law…
EX 20:8 -11 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
GOD’S SEAL
NAME – LORD THY GOD
TITLE – CREATOR
DOMINION – HEAVEN, EARTH AND EVERYTHING
Go check out what can be found on laws a president signs into being… THE PRESIDENT’S SEAL
Rev 14:11-12 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: AND THEY HAVE NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS of God, and the FAITH OF JESUS. (note: not only the faith in Jesus)
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS… SUNDAY??? (his mark of authority…)
Surely not… One day is the same as another
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@ Lies-Seeker
I won’t thank you for ignoring ALL those Holy Scriptures from Hebrews in classical Pharisaical Law based tradition.
You then cherry pick one verse out of context (verse 9) in order to try and make your pathetic non-case.
There IS a REST unto The People of God – an eternal REST i.e. everyday of our lives for those who BELIEVE, so I’ll leave you with your Sabbath Day behaviour with your Sabbath smiles for just one day a week.
I’ve been there, done it all, seen it all, worn all the Judaisers T Shirts – to my shame and disgrace.
You said:
“And I will answer truthfully as well, I will enter my Father’s rest when I am born again into Spirit immortality into His Family as His Son.”
You cannot answer Truthfully, because The Truth i.e. Yashua Anointed is NOT in you. If He were in you, you would know that He has done everything for you in His death and resurrection and already forgiven you ALL your sins. Furthermore, how are you going to enter His Kingdom as a sinner i.e. someone who attempts to keep the law or the commandments and who fails with every attempt?
“And I will then rest from the labor of being a carnal human being just like you are even right at this moment.”
Thanks for confirming that you have NOT entered into His Sabbath Rest.
You also said:
“Please tell me if a 25 year old drop dead gorgeous girl perfect in every way offered herself to you – it will cause you not one problem?? And if you tell me that lusting after her in your mind is not sin, we are in different Bibles.”
Oh yes my DEAD body of sin would still lust after, but not as much as your LIVE body of sin, but me also being Spirit led and already forgiven the sin I was committing in my mind, would take it no further, because my inner desire is not to sin. You, on the other hand, would be more likely to succumb because The Law has already accused you and condemned you of that sin. So if already guilty and condemned, which you are, why not go ahead and take her, what difference would it make? That’s how the unforgiven law keeping mind works – just do an analysis of child sexual abuse within the JW movement and the Roman Cult of course.
Time now to repent, get Baptised (possibly a second time for you) into Yashua Anointed’s name alone, not the pagan trinity, and then you can enter His Sabbath Rest and also be a part of the First Resurrection, that is, a part that is not cast into outer darkness.
“I fight sin every day and will until the resurrection.”
Yes and you will always fail, because YOU ARE doing the fighting and YOUR best is just not good enough.
Matt 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven (God). (Brackets mine)
yes2truth
I can quote 100 scriptures and you will find a way around them. I will just use one.
Revelation 3:19 “As many as I LOVE I rebuke and chasten, be zealous therefore and repent”
This is Christ talking about Saints He LOVES, He rebukes and chasten them, why do they need to be rebuked and chasten if they,, like you,, are already perfect, Christ is talking about His Saints that have been given the Holy Spirit and He tells them to REPENT — what in the world can they repent of if there is no Law, and why would Christ tell a saved and already in the Rest of God Saint to repent and of what?
I know you will find, as always, a way around this, I can only point out the Truth.
The Law can never infer, deliver or make righteous any person, The Law is the definition of Righteousness. I am righteous only because I am covered by the blood of Jesus Christ.
One more if you please, why does Paul say “Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses let us lay aside every weight and the SIN THAT SO EASILY beset us–” Oh Paul says sin which is the transgression of the Law so easily beset us – the Saints. He can’t mean we have to fight off sin every day of our lives can he?
Don’t know why you are wasting your time with no2error… Focus on what matters!!!
3am
I answer because there might be someone out there being confused by yes2what ever?
At least if it is shown where he is off in left field it might help someone.
Roger that
@ LiesSeeker
You can quote a hundred Scriptures can you, well ain’t that just dandy? It’s just too bad you don’t understand any of them. You’re like an illiterate with a book in his hands.
Rebuked and chastened to bring us to repentance and Baptism. You know, that event that is totally meaningless to you and has achieved NOTHING in your life.
After Baptism, the Christian life is then a life of trials – financial, health, whatever – taking up our crosses, but being a self-flagellator you’re not satisfied with that, you’re into the heavy yoke stuff as well – obeying The Law – condemned by The Law – struggling with sin that you’re never going to overcome – always the failure and ALWAYS falling short – a sinner, condemned by the very Commandments and/or the very The Law you admit cannot save you. You had better start meditating on these Truths – if you know what’s good for you.
Then you say:
“I know you will find, as always, a way around this.”
I am not finding a way around anything. The Truth is straight and unwavering and doesn’t wriggling and writhe like a snake in the grass, only those under The Law do that, because they know deep down they will never be able to live up to the strict and UNFORGIVING demands of The Law and they are ALWAYS condemned by it because they ALWAYS fail in keeping it.
“I can only point out the Truth.”
You cannot point out The Truth, because you are not OF The Truth – you are OF The Law – a 21st century Pharisee like that Adventist Judaising mongrel dog 3AM, so you continually argue against The Truth so do not live under His Grace.
Here you begrudgingly admit The Truth without standing under it:
“The Law can never infer, deliver or make righteous any person, The Law is the definition of Righteousness. I am righteous only because I am covered by the blood of Jesus Christ.”
You cannot be covered by the blood of Jesus Christ if you are living under The Law and/or under The Commandments. You totally contradict your own statement, as written above, and trample upon Yashua Anointed’s sacrifice every day of your wretched life.
This is an either/or arrangement, a black or white arrangement. Either you’re under The Law OR you’re under His Grace – there is no half-way house and NO compromises and no watering down – it’s fully under His Grace or nothing and outer darkness awaits you and your ally 3AM.
I am not going to get into what Paul meant by “laying aside the sin that so easily besets us”, because there is no way you would understand it, seeing as you’re struggling with or refusing to accept the milk I am currently giving you.
yes2truth
my pray is that the “babes” see you for what you are.
Your reply is totally pathetic and meaningless.
Your prayers???? Who do you think is listening to them? I’ll tell you – NO ONE.
Now repent.
I notice, too, that you use the term ‘babes’ but NOT Spiritual Babes – telling us that you are a stranger to the Holy Spiritual dimension which makes entry into His Sabbath Rest possible.
Therefore your ‘babes’ must be Law Babes or Commandment Babes or Sabbath Keeping Babes being trained for outer darkness.
yes2truth
As I got out of bed this morning what you are demanding came crashing into my mind..
YOU ARE DEMANDING I REPENT OF KEEPING THE LAW OF GOD!
The whole Bible the sum total of the Word of God is God telling His people to keep the Law and time after time God punishes the children of Israel for not keeping the Law.
Now you in your upside down inside out confused state are actually demanding that a Begotten Son of God not keep the Perfect Law of God. I am going to believe you and not my Father??????????????? There is not one chance I would do that even if promised the whole world.. Just as Christ would not transgress the Law of God when Satan promised Him the Whole World neither will I.
What a pity The Truth and Grace and Faith in Yashua Anointed didn’t come crashing into your mind.
Do you know, a Jew returning from Babylonian captivity would have said the same thing:
“YOU ARE DEMANDING I REPENT OF KEEPING THE LAW OF GOD!”
Your place in outer darkness is waiting for you unless you repent – there will be weeping, wailing and the gnashing of teeth.
yes2truth
I will gladly and willingly submit to the judgment of Jesus Christ, but I care not at all for yours.
You have perverted the Gospel of Jesus Christ into something the god of this world would be proud.
Y2t
The modus operandi that promote your words is the biggest angus patty I’ve ever
seen & I’ve seen a lot on my walk
When its all over said & done…
Deeds & words spoken…
all without the motivation of God’s Love supporting them will be burned, incinerated.
There will be a lotta bon fires that time.
Check up from the neck up
@ LiesSeeker
What judgement? You truly are a Judaising mongrel dog blind guide of blind guides:
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus
You really are a wretched son of the Devil, as is that blatherer Natsal where we know very little is going on from his/her neck up.
@ Natsal
You said:
“Deeds & words spoken… all without the motivation of God’s Love supporting them will be burned, incinerated.”
All my words are spoken with God’s love. Your problem is that you have no idea what God’s love is nor what is like:
“A Generation (race) of vipers” – “Throats like open graves” – “Whited sepulchres” – “Whited walls” – “Sons of The Devil” “Liars from the beginning” – “The Devil’s Seed”
All these words were uttered by Yashua Anointed when dealing with people like you and LiesSeeker.
yes2truth
I will ask one more question; Did Jesus Christ die because of your sins?
Happy now Truthseeker?
Next time you feel like having a conversation with this one, let me know and I’ll yell into your face:
“Judaising mongrel dog scoundrel blathering wretch!!!”
You’ll save valuable time that way, and the results will be identical. OR…
If you really want to get crazy and try to have a chat with Pharisees.pharisee, I could scream at you:
“CHILD OF HELL!!!! DEMON SPAWN MORON IDIOT!!!! (spit, spew, retch, gag) STUPID FOOL SCUMBAG CONVERT TO ANTICHRIST PAUL!!!! HHAAAAARRRRGGHGHHHH!!!!!!!”
Just imagine all the time I could save you.
beef,
I truly believe you !!! NOW finally
both of these fellows can make the truth look like Swiss cheese with their perverted intellects. Up is for sure down to them and scripture is defined only by them and the definitions changes day by day.
I hope I am done, if I weaken please scream at me.
y2
Even when you are alone with yourself
Looking into your own eyes
You can not see what’s wrong, can you…
The accuser & executioner that you think you are
You are to your ownself first in personal privacy.
Know we no man according to the flesh
1 Cor is a reproof epistle
If reproof is not accepted
Correction cometh
Correction is the painful way to learn…
Speak words You can hold onto after the fire !
@ LiesSeeker
Why are you still behaving like a Pharisee when I have already crushed all your Judaising arguments? Go back and read all my answers to your demonic opinions.
@Natsal
I accuse no one for they, like you, condemn themselves by the vileness of their own evil words.
All I do is point out their satanic blasphemous errors. Coming to obvious conclusions is not judging.
People like yourself generally hate The Truth. Just take a look at Ecoli Beef’s rabid comment for all the proof and evidence.
You’re hilarious, Crabby. If merely quoting you makes for rabid commentary, then how can the problem be mine?
The ice beneath you giveth way.
@ Ecoli Beef
Yes the usual quasi-intellectual’s trick – quoting out of context or cherry picking in a feeble attempt to make an argument out of nothing.
Now why is that Beef? I’ll tell you, because you invariably have only NOTHING to offer other than quasi-intellectual blather and meaningless ramblings.
I never did find a better example, than you, of a man that likes the sound of his own words. Do you chat to yourself whilst looking in the mirror?
It occurs to me now, Grouchy…
The words you produce, when they come from you, have meaning OTHER than the meaning they should have to language itself. For example, you say I have quoted you out of context, when no context is given in the quote I provided. All I did, in fact, was REPRODUCE a sample of your malodorous fumes in precisely the form they are most commonly gassed abroad by your Grace. But what I find most amusing, and most telling, is that your Grace has taken offense to this. Speaking of mirrors, Crabby, when I hold a mirror up to your scowling visage, you behold what you see — your own reflection — and you bark at it, because it displeases even you.
This speaks volumes. The ghost in your machine is identified. You never finished ‘cooking’ as a man of the world. You never learned to crawl before you tried to run. You never learned how to be a man of the Earth before you tried to become a man of the Spirit. So you are failing at both.
That you are incapable of seeing this clearly does nothing to belie the point. The optics through which you view the world, and yourself, are flawed to such a degree that you will never be able to glean a clear picture of anything while using them.
But worse for you is the fact that your ears are in a similar decrepit state. Thus, you will hear NOTHING of the many words spoken to you along these lines.
More’s the pity. Good day to you Crabby.
As I was saying.
Try not to think – you’ll find it a great help.
“Try not to think – you’ll find it a great help.”
The Crabby motto. This is probably carved on Crabby’s bedpost.
The first thing he sees each night before sleep…
…and the first thing his eyes light upon every morning.
This is the motto he lives by.
A ZEALOT for not thinking.
At least he isn’t lukewarm. He’s got that much going for him.
Take it away Crabby. You have the floor.
@ Ecoli Beef
Take the floor??? Why, of course, I always take the floor, but not at any man’s invitation.
Lukewarm? No, I am hotter than hot with the fire of God’s Word spurting from my finger tips as I type just for you Beef inviting you to repent of your Law based blasphemies as soon as possible.
yes2truth
I fully realize you will not believe the words of my Savior Jesus Christ but I must lay them before you once more for you to reject.
Matthew 7: 21 – 23
21 Not everyone that saith unto me Lord, Lord shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in Heaven:
22 Many will say to Me “in that day” Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy Name? And in thy Name, have we not cast out devils? And in thy Name, done many wonderful works?
23 “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you; depart from Me ye that work
— iniquity”. —
That word INIQUITY is number 458 “Anomia” and is defined as: illegality i.e. violation of the Law; transgression of the Law ; unrighteousness.
You want me to Repent of living by the perfect Law of God and my Savior is telling me NOT to work iniquity????? Which is unrighteousness and transgression of the Law???
Again I fully realize you will twist this in to knots making the Word of the King of king of none effect because with out the Holy Spirit you can not keep the Law and thus you want none of it. This is your problem not mine, take it up with my Father and let Him judge you.
I will seek to do the WILL of my Father, the creator and up holder of all Law and I willfully submit to His judgment.
@ LiesSeeker
You said:
“I fully realize you will not believe the words of my Savior Jesus Christ but I must lay them before you once more for you to reject.”
Unfortunately you realise NOTHING, let alone ‘fully realise’ so that renders the rest of your sentence meaningless or a hollow claim that you speak for Yashua Anointed when you speak as a 21st century Pharisee only – as a man of The Law.
You then said:
“You want me to Repent of living by the perfect Law of God and my Savior is telling me NOT to work iniquity????? Which is unrighteousness and transgression of the Law???”
You cannot live by the perfect Law of God – NO MAN CAN – it is totally 100% impossible for any man to live by the Perfect Law of God. YOU can do NOTHING BUT break that Perfect Law. Any man who says he can, is a bare faced liar and, thereby, a son of The Devil.
This means you must repent of this Law based foolishness and live solely under HIS GRACE which, I notice, you made no mention of in your graceless comment. You MUST make the decision to either live under The Law OR live under His Glorious Grace, for you cannot live under both.
Nothing I have said is twisting anything. EVERYTHING I have said, on the whole of this thread, is ALL VERY STRAIGHT FORWARD and simple.
And you keep on parroting like a stylus stuck in a record about me being judged – how can I be judged when there is now no condemnation for those in Yashua Anointed.
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus.
I am in Christ Jesus, YOU are under The Law. And because of that, it is YOU that IS being judged, because anyone who lives under The Law is judged, by default, under and by that Law, and there is no escape from that judgement other than by living under Yashua Anointed’s Glorious Grace.
Now repent – if you know what’s good for you.
yes2
can you please explain what Jesus Christ is talking about in Matthew 7: 21 -23.
Is He saying depart from Me you evil folks that are doing your best not to lie, fornicate, murder, steal, take My Fathers name in vain and like you yes2truth, use graven images.
I am just not clear on this, if I do my best not to lie or steal or lust after women like the one at the restaurant the other night that exposed 80% of both breast, is that what I must repent of? I should have lusted?
this is all so confusing?? Its bad NOT to lie?? I am to keep the law without knowing I am keeping the Law, or hid it from myself that I am not fornicating with my neighbors wife???
Christ is keeping it for me so I don’t have to, sorry, my mind is logical and this is just does not add up.
@ LiesSeeker
Let me spell it out for YOU:
YOUR BEST is not good enough – period.
In your present condition you are worse than the lost and unsaved – more evil and more sinful.
What graven images are these that you have conjured up in your twisted and demonic Judaising mind?
If you are Spirit led Christian, why would you be lying, stealing and/or fornicating with your neighbour’s wife? Are you led by The Holy Spirit or by the flesh?
yes2truth
So am I to understand you can not explain Matthew 7:21 -23 according to the personal doctrine of yes2truth? All you know how to do is throw insults? You can not explain?
I am happy to inform you that the Perfect Law of God existed before creation otherwise please explain how Angels could sin? If there were no Law – sin could not exist and Satan was a sinner and an adversary of God as shown in the Garden.
If you will read John 8: 44 you will find that Christ states Satan was a liar and a murderer from the beginning, in Exodus 20 it shows the Sixth Commandment is murder and the ninth is lying. Oh Oh!
yes 2 “truth” as defined by yes2truth; the only reason I am wasting my time with you is to prevent some poor fellow from falling for your perverted doctrine of demons.
You never respond to solid questions because you can not. In your demented world you
hate the Perfect Law of God. The Law that is extolled throughout the Word of God from beginning to end and is the very mind of God the Father.
Yes the Holy Spirit of God the Father gives that repentant person the “seed” of the Divine Holy Righteous Nature of God which begins and only begins the conversion from carnal human nature to Divine Nature, this is called the circumcision without hands.
This circumcision is the cutting away of your evil carnal human nature and building in its place the Divine God Nature of Holy Righteous character. God builds this in a person by trials in the fire to refine it as pure GOLD.
According to your doctrine you are already as perfect as Christ is, I admit I am not, but do seek that final perfection which comes only at the resurrection when this flesh is shed. And I know for a fact you are still carnal flesh and blood.
Conversion is a life long process, a fact you will not and can not ever accept as it destroys the false foundation you have built your doctrine upon.
OK, I am set and ready for your next volley of vile words that can only come from your father.
I can explain anything you want, but you will not understand what I say, because you are Spiritually dead under The Law. Talking to you is worse than talking to a brick wall ‘cos at least with a brick wall I would get an echo.
With you there is nothing but shifting sands, for no sooner I answer one of your comments you slither like snake onto something else.
You said:
“I am happy to inform you that the Perfect Law of God existed before creation otherwise please explain how Angels could sin?”
I am glad and joyous (not happy) to inform you that after Yashua Anointed’s death and resurrection Grace came in and The Law went out. Not that, that will have any impact upon you, because you’re earning your salvation and have no need of Grace, nor His Sacrifice.
You said:
“If you will read John 8: 44 you will find that Christ states Satan was a liar and a murderer from the beginning, in Exodus 20 it shows the Sixth Commandment is murder and the ninth is lying. Oh Oh!”
Yes and in John 8 The Pharisees were the Devil’s descendants, physically and spiritually, and the very people you have more in common with than Yashua Anointed – they, being Law keepers and Commandment keepers and far better at it than YOU.
You said:
“This circumcision is the cutting away of your evil carnal human nature and building in its place the Divine God Nature of Holy Righteous character.”
This statement is an evil satanic lie.
The Christian circumcision is of the heart. The carnal nature dies at Baptism, you know, that event in a man’s life that means nothing to you and has achieved nothing for you, because you are a spiritually dead blind guide.
You then said:
“God builds this in a person by trials in the fire to refine it as pure GOLD.”
Trials are for the development of Faith and Faith alone, for which there are rewards stored in heaven and will be given to the saints at the resurrection. These rewards are OVER AND ABOVE SALVATION – EXTRA BLESSINGS.
You said:
“According to your doctrine you are already as perfect as Christ is, I admit I am not.”
I have no doctrine – you’re the man with the doctrines – the doctrines of Devils. The Truth is not a doctrine. And yes HE HAS MADE ME perfect.
You admit that you’re not eh? Then tell me how you’re going to enter The Kingdom of God as imperfect? Are you saying that sinners can enter the Kingdom?
Tell me how your blemished and filthy bridal gown with its sins is going to be spotless for the wedding feast? I can see you now, like those five virgins rushing off to pathetically try and buy some oil (grace) for their lamps.
You had better meditate on these things, IF you know what’s good for you.
yes2truth
Have a nice life By By
I have eternal life so that’s very nice and never mind “By By”:
When are you going to repent, confess your blasphemous Judaising sins, get Baptised into Yashua Anointed’s name alone, receive the Gift of The Holy Spirit and walk in newness of life as a Born of God Spirit led Christian, instead of a blaspheming 21st century Pharisee, pointlessly seeking salvation that you will never get, by your pathetic attempts at obedience to The Law which will ALWAYS fail.
Beef,
A thought just occurred to me, as I have already admitted I am not perfect thus these thoughts still come,
the way to find out if yes2truth is already perfected — is to ask his wife.
If yes2perfection has a wife (she must be a very brave soul) she could tell us of his perfection or not. As I have been married to the same women for almost 47 years I know for a fact she can tell you of my imperfections and would be glad to. I think she is writing a book on them. LOL
the truth has a way of breaking forth
@ LiesSeeker
Never mind your seeking pathetic alliances with another BIN Judaising dog i.e. Ecoli Beef.
No problem re my wife for she is perfect too, and we never judge each other – how can perfection be judged, for we are both no longer under any condemnation being both in Yashua Anointed. A concept you have NO understanding of.
Let me quote this again, for your thick block head seems not to be able to grasp it:
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus.
When are YOU going to be in Christ Jesus instead of being in The Law?
I am still waiting for your answer on how YOU, as a sinner, are going to enter The Kingdom of God?
Let’s hear it from the 21st century Pharisee!!! It must be worth a good laugh if nothing else.
please explain condemnation?
I’m not even a participant in the conversation and I still get called a Judaising DOG??!!
I’m flattered.
When these illiterates can’t win an argument, they devolve into name calling..
Beef and ghost,
The saddest part of this; these name callers and screamers send scriptures that make your point and do not even realize it.
I respond to common sense, logic and facts but those without those three only are left with screaming and name calling.
the day draws closer, have you seen the storm hitting the Philippines, winds to 265 MPH
Been keeping an internet eye on that storm.. TV, even weather channel not saying much about it.
MANILA, Philippines — Thousands were abandoning villages Thursday as Haiyan, the strongest typhoon in the world this year, bore down on the Philippines.
The U.S. Navy’s Joint Typhoon Warning Center in Hawaii said Typhoon Haiyan’s maximum sustained winds were 195 mph, with gusts up to 235 mph.
“This is a catastrophe,” said weather.com senior meteorologist Jon Erdman.
The U.S. Navy’s center said Typhoon Haiyan was the strongest tropical cyclone in the world this year. Cyclone Phailin, which hit eastern India on Oct. 12, packed sustained winds of up to 138 mph and stronger gusts.
“This is the third super typhoon (maximum sustained winds of at least 150 mph) in less than three weeks,” said Michael Lowry, hurricane specialist at The Weather Channel. “Already, three typhoons have struck the Philippines this year.
weather.com
@ LiesSeeker
NO – you explain it – I need a good laugh.
Plus I am also sick of casting pearls of Grace before swine such as you.
@ Ghost
Haven’t you drowned yet?
And of course the leading member of the 21st century Gadarene Swine would have to turn up to respond to the accurarcy of his title of “Judaising dog”
As always that cap fits a treat Beef.
con·dem·na·tion
noun ˌkän-ˌdem-ˈnā-shən, -dəm-
: a statement or expression of very strong and definite criticism or disapproval
Full Definition of CONDEMNATION
1: censure, blame
2: the act of judicially condemning
3: the state of being condemned
4: a reason for condemning
See condemnation defined for English-language learners »
Examples of CONDEMNATION
The plan has drawn condemnation from both sides.
The government’s statement was a condemnation of all acts of terrorism.
First Known Use of CONDEMNATION
14th century
Related to CONDEMNATION
Synonyms
commination, censure, denunciation, excoriation, objurgation, rebuke, reprimand, reproach, reproof, riot act, stricture
Antonyms
citation, commendation, endorsement (also indorsement)
Related Words
admonishment, admonition, castigation, chastisement, damnation, punishment, remonstrance; business, devil, dressing-down, lash, lecture, lesson, rap, scolding, talking-to, tongue-lashing; belittlement, criticism, deprecation, depreciation, disparagement, pan
I find numbers 2 and 3 to be very telling, thank you for making my point exactly.
I will never repent of obeying my Master, there is no reward for a servant obeying what His Master commands, it is his duty. John 13:13.
Hey LiesSeeker what a lot of quasi-intellectual trouble and nonsense you went to in order to twist a pervert a very simple verse of Holy Scripture. Now that is not funny – that’s hilarious.
What a little demon you are:
G2631
katakrima
kat-ak’-ree-mah
From G2632; an adverse sentence (the verdict): – condemnation.
G2632
katakrinō
kat-ak-ree’-no
From G2596 and G2919; to judge against, that is, sentence: – condemn, damn.
There is no verdict or adverse sentence or any judgement against or any damnation or condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
When are you going to get out from beneath The Law that condemns you and under Yashua Anointed’s glorious Grace?
yes2truth
And I ask you why there is no condemnation, is it not because Jesus Christ die in our stead?
what was the purpose of His death on the Stake, if not to pay the price for our sins?
He died for us! Our sins killed Him.
God demands death for the transgression of the His Law, Christ was without sin an as our Creator His life was more valuable then all men. His perfect sinless death covered us all.
Those that Repent of transgressing the Perfect Law and are baptized and — receive the Holy Spirit through the laying on of hands are forgiven and are no longer subject to the penalty of death — unless they willfully sin and if they do willfully sin after receiving the Holy Spirit they will receive the baptism of the Lake of Fire.
I accept the sacrifice of Jesus Christ as payment for my sins, I an no longer subject to the penalty of death, there is no longer condemnation for me because of the Work of Christ.
But now that He bought and paid for me I am His servant and do what He commands.
Yes I also know He is my friend, as my friend He gave His life for me.
I know this is not what you have in you mind, sorry I can not change your mind only my Father can open your mind to HIS TRUTH. He has allowed your mind to be shut and locked.
Do you truthfully think My Savior would talk to me as do you?? My savior does not have an acid mouth full of vile lies. When you speak of me as a demon you are the liar.
You spit at me that I am trying to earn salvation by obeying my Father nothing could be further from the truth, I already have salvation -If I endure until the end and do not fall a way
from the Truth. I obey because He commands me to do so, there is no reward for that.
The Bible plainly and very clearly explains you are rewarded for your works, salvation is a free gift an unearned one. Christ wants us to bring forth fruit in our lives, the fruit of His Spirit working in us.
We are told we can know them by their works – their fruits, your works are name calling and condemning the servants of God and driving away those would come to Christ;;;
Be-careful you that claim perfection.
You said:
“And I ask you why there is no condemnation, is it not because Jesus Christ die in our stead?
what was the purpose of His death on the Stake, if not to pay the price for our sins?
He died for us! Our sins killed Him.
God demands death for the transgression of the His Law, Christ was without sin an as our Creator His life was more valuable then all men. His perfect sinless death covered us all.
Those that Repent of transgressing the Perfect Law and are baptized and — receive the Holy Spirit through the laying on of hands are forgiven and are no longer subject to the penalty of death.”
So what’s your problem and why after He has done all this for you, thereby making you perfect, do you go back to obeying The Law – The Very Law He took with Him to the cross.
This is your satanic problem.
…so now the world sins no more?.. IF HAVE NOT YET NOTICED, the problem of sin is worse now than ever…
You should get down on your knees o perfect one AND PRAY TO YOURSELF… or you and your wife should pray to one another seeing that you are both perfect!
Luke 18:16-22 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein. And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up. Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
ME THINKS OBEDIENCE IS KEY! I mean… You would not even need grace if there was no Law…
The definition of sin is the breaking of the Law… and the wages of sin is death!
What did Jesus say to the woman who was caught in an act of adultery after the people wanted to stone her?
HE FORGAVE HER AND SENT HER BACK TO THE LAW… THE LAW BRINGS US TO JESUS AND HE BRINGS US TO THE LAW.
3am
you and I are on the same page.
God the Father is HOLY
Jesus Christ is HOLY
The 10 Commandments are HOLY
The Sabbath is HOLY
HOLINESS is eternal, everything HOLY is eternal.