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A perfect example of how difficult communication can really be. These arguments rest on whatever evidence there may be to support a point of view…when theres very little thought given as to what rapture actually is. We have well established and typically agreed upon means regarding when ‘Heaven’ might happen…and that is after our bodies have ceased to function. Easy it is to neglect thorough thinking regarding matters that some would say are intentionally left to faith…but how come in arguing this rapture matter the contridiction being going to heaven after dying and ‘rapturing’ to heaven – supposedly while still alive – is completely ignored? Most people have a working concept of what rapture in its generic sense is…so think about what it means to go to heaven while still alive. There might be a couple of places in the bible that could imply this – but I would say that Jesus himself is the only one who might even be remotely capable of this….dire circumstances indeed to cause large numbers of people to do this – but the bible does talk about that doesnt it. Extreme duress at the hands of evil. How is your faith?

Thank you for posting this. It is very very important – for everybody to study.

This occuence, or phenomenon, is prophesied to us, in warnings to us, in the Bibles. signs and lying wonders, miracles in the heavens and in the earth it is said will deceive the majority of earth’s people. if it were possible, even the very elect. (who are they? they are good people who take the words of warning and of will of IAUE and Yahushua seriously, and follow them to the best they can, who study these things, and do not trust in man, or any spirit, but test the spirits.)

Miracles and signs will confuse and amaze the world, and they will think, ‘Miracles = Goodness”.
But these things I tell you before, so that ye are not deceived.

The Rapture before the coming of King Yahushua is NOT BIBLICAL, but the people do not know this, because their preachers lie to them. Because they serve Baal, Lord, Master, of destruction and ‘love’ and ‘light’.
Many people, I fear, are going to be taken up and away with their ‘guiding spirits, guardians of the earth, aascended masters’ who are all spirits of evil, lies and destruction and death = coming disguised as ‘Angels of Light’.

What will each one of us ask them, may I ask ?

Do you have any questions in mind to ask these spirits who will have done their job so well, that they will assume you want to go with them when they appear in a time of miracles, perhaps with a backdrop of looming worldwide destruction?

What do you read in the Bible that you are supposed to do? Look askance, look askance. Regard them with suspicion, for this was foretold to us for our preservation. They in whatever form they take, and their mighty miracles of beautiful stuff, sounds, phenomena, and emotions.

We are never expected to be stupid, gullible, we are not supposed to be ‘polite’ and ‘respectful’ to these spirits just because they are ‘advanced’ and act superior to us and our abilities. We are warned repeatedly about this by our Makers, IAUE and Yahushua, and they do not want us to be taken and go with them because we were too respectful and in awe so that we did not think to question, to presume the possibility they may be out to do us some harm. Like in Noah’s warning scripture, in Matthew, so shall it be in this time, this flood is not one of water to take the people away and drown them, it is one of words from the dragon’s mouth, lies, to destroy you, via belief in the lies from Satan’s priests. Satan’s religion. You ought to know better, since this is being disrespectful of your Makers, Yah and Yahushua, Who both told us not to trust any spirits, but to TEST them. We are not to trust man, they tell us; same with spirits, – who they warn us – are out to deceive us with their miracles and powers.

All spirits who do not identify themselves and tell us what they are there to do, Who sent them, and what is the message from IAUE to you to do – should be definitely NOT FOLLOWED. Tell them to get back and away from you and yours.

We would warn our children never to trust strangers, who promise good things; like a man in a white car like Arias, who told Amanda Berry he would give her a ride….

These spirits who want earth’s people to go with them are trying to get us to agree, beforehand, therefore all this disinfo. (Why? because they will then be able to accuse us, to IAUE, for being disloyal, and say we agreed to it ourselves. That they did not force us to go with them.) They work to get our tacit agreement now, thru this teaching, so many long decades and decades, 200 years or so. If they teach the lie so long, we will expect it – get used to it, and not research it. Because they do not want you to question them. For if you knew the right questions to ask them, you would not go. If you knew the answers to the questions and knew enough from studying to know what things are true and what are lies, you would recognise their lies.

about the words of the Scriptures, the truth, All they are taught/ know is lies so that leaves all people like this in a very vulnerable position, to be overwhelmed supernaturally with the super-natural miracles, abilities and energies that will be put to us, towards our destruction, they hope and aspire and work to ensure the maximum number of people will be fooled.

We need to ask them some vital questions, according to the bibles we hold.

Read your Bibles, please, start in Matthew 24, for easy all-over view. Then read the other parts. All you need is really in there, but your teachings from chruch fathers will be your handicap. Do not believe what men adn women tell you is in there, just do it yourself.

May the Spirit of IAUe be with you alway, even unto the end of the world.

That is what Yahushua said.

Did you all notice that? The end of the world – end of the WORLD. END OF WORLD.

NOT ‘TIL THE RAPTURE’ 7 OR 3 1/2 YEARS BEFORE THE END OF THE WORLD.!!!!!!!!
sorry, that just hit me then, never have I thought consciously about that til now

Thank you, and Praise your Makers, IAUE and Yahushua, His sent Messiahd, Son and Word who shares His Spirit of Truth, Loe, and LIfe

Goodnight, May IAUE sent His Spirit they share to all of you and lead you and guide you into all these truths, wihich will save you and yours.

Dear Truthseeker,

I thank you for your kind and sincere thoughts, above very much. Just now I saw that you had replied and I am very glad that we can reason with one another like this.

When you say,

“Truthseeker
Wretched Infidel

You come across as very sincere and knowledgeable as well. I respect that.

I also realize my beliefs place me in a very small minority. In my long years on this earth and from too much interaction with other humans I have come to the point that I trust no man.
That statement is not pointed at you, just in general.

I many times do not trust my self, Most of what I have come to accept as the truth I get from prayer, studying the Word and thinking about both. Some basics were given to me 45 years ago. In passing, 45 years ago I was ashamed of my faith, being “religious” was the equivalent to me of being a queer. Trust me, I am no homosexual.

I have spent 45 years proving the doctrine I follow. And it is easy to explain, I follow Jesus Christ as He follows the Father.”

this is very painful experiences, I know. It is so so tragic that the world does this to us, over our belief, our seeking of the truth, truth of our Father. I am very sorry, as are I am quite certain, many other sincere ones on here who may be also suffering similar to this.

And I wish to convey that I do completely understand, or as much as a woman can, understand, how the world will treat a sincere man, who sticks to the truth he has learned, or proven, to himself and does the best he knows how with what he has learned is the truth. To be called a homosexual because of it, by other so-called human ‘men’ was the cruelest thing they could think of, and that came from the spirit of evil which resides IN THEM, AND IT WISHED TO CUT YOU DOWN TO THE GROUND. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD THINK OF HOW TO TRY TO DO THAT – ATTACK YOU PERSONALLY, in such a senstive area.
SHAME, SHAME ON THEM, FOR THIS EVIL ATTACK (AND THE FACT THAT THEY COULD EVEN BRING THEMSELVES TO DO THIS TO YOU SHOWS YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, FOR NOTHING HATES TRUTH LIKE EVIL SPIRITS do)

This is the nature of the enemy, you had to see it up close and personal, Truthseeker, to feel the hatred, to know what it consists of, pure and utter boundless unreasoning HATE incarnate.

Can you imagine a world without this in it? I wish it were here already. To answer your other points, and there are many and great ones, it is necessary for me to return later, hopefully today in the evening to do your thoughts and points justice.

That you have much truth, and the love of the truth, is clear from what you write here. You have gone where no people without guts and much brave courage nary dare to tread. You have proven things like the Sabbath observance still in effect, and gone against the tide and that has also – although to your eternal benefit, gotten you sidelined by the majority of people on this deluded earth, I am sure. (so it has been with me, and my 3 people), you have probably suffered persecution because of it. This shows that same, consistent response of the beast, of persecuting those who choose what they know is proven truth. This is very valuable to Yah, (IAUE), and your Messiah. They are looking toward you, a man in whom is no guile and who has faith.

However there are some things we still do not comprehend, but must take on faith, on IAUE’s word, words that fit His other words, and which form a total, complete unifed logical precept, view – which if ignored in part, do not fully make sense. That is why many people still do not get the whole universal picture, because they are taught certain things are not needful, or important to them, or to their Creator Father, and in like manner, important to their Creator’s Word, the sent Hebrew man of IAUE, Yahushua or shortened to Yahshua.

I can get you a good resource, the publication that you cannot buy, by R. Clover, entitled The Sacred Name Yahweh by Qadesh la Yahweh Press, out of Covina California.
It will be invaluable above all other sources I think, – in explaining to you who are not aware yet of the heavy weight this matter of His Name carries – to Him, Our Creator, The Father, especially, but ALSO – little known to us – (i wonder why… sarcasm) is vital to us, the created ones in His image – created to commune with Him, and the Word, with them. Of little-known truth ignored in churchdom is that identity of Spirit worshipped is of utmost critical importance. But the main number one factor or reason to do this – to use His True Name He gave to us to know and use, is to honour Him, The Being IAUE, who created every thing and loves us. That is the most valid reason to do it. That it also protects and delivers us from other spirits who claim to be Gods (and are) who are bent on destruction of us and destruction of Yah’s truth, is of lesser importance. But since He loved us before they made us, it is important very much to Him/Them that we do as they desire and said, because they do not want to see us destroyed. We don’t want to be victimised, or destroyed, simply because we did not understand fully the meaning of why they said to do some things and not other things, right?

It is foolish, at least, for man to say, ‘I do not understand this, therefore I will not hold it as binding to me simply because My Creators said to do this thing. My complete understanding is the standard of whether I will be obedient to this commandment.’ And it smacks of arrogance. Yes, we are told to seek out the wisdom of the Creator and follow the things his sent Messiah did for example. The things may not all be understood at first, or ever, on this earth. But they are there for a good reason we can be sure.
Take prions for example. Prion disease is caused (like Mad Cow disease, and the human variant prion disease which causes holes in the brain like a sponge) by an abnormally-bent protein, which is caused in a body (animal or human) by eating certain things they were not designed to eat. Cows are designed to eat only vegetables and grass, grains. Vegetarians are not designed to be fed meat. When people disobye the nature and force-fed cows meat, it resulted in their getting something wrong with their bodies, and they got holes in their brain from these abnoramlly-bent proteins, caused by the meat they ingested unintentionally by the poor cattle. They couldn’t help it, and never would have done that on their own, they were force-fed it in their feed given by the humans who wanted to savae a few cents and go against their design. (showing their severe lack of respect for their Creator and the creation).

When people eat those cows, they also get Alzheimer’s from bent proteins (it is also caused by other things, dementia, but autopsys from alzheimer’s patients show that most of them have the spongiform encephalopathy just like those cows do with prion disease). If people eat shellfish like lobster, shrimp, rodents, like squirrels and worse, that is also linked with the development of more Alzheimer’s they found, this report was on Fox news, shellfish and squirrels about 2003 or so. So since we learn that the Bible tells us what foods are for human consumption, (clean) and what we should not eat (unclean) it is not necessary for us to understand why, and we didn’t really, until mad cow and this human variant mad cow and its various culprits were realized. And when we didn’t understand why the metal cooking vessels of the unclean-food eating people (Moabites) should be passed thru the fire, and we still did that, we were kept safe from prions. But we didn’t know that science found out recently in the 90′s that fire is the only thing that destroys prions, thereby rendering those cooking vessels made of metal safe to use. (Moabites used to cook abominable things…in those pots).

But if we just read that and did it, faithfully, like IAUE said to do we would be safe from prions
If we thought, ‘Well, that sounds like it is superstitious, and old-fashioned, and I don’t understand that commandment, so we will not do it….’ then, we were screwed, because we were unaware of the reasons why our Creator said it, and we thought we would use our limited brains and be arrogant and disobey it, and people got prion disease from not heeding this commandment. And the dietary commands not to eat rodents and snails and other unclean animals He knew (they knew) would cause us detriment and so commanded us not to eat.

Same way man may say to himself, or herself, ‘Well, my Granddaddy and grandmother ate this and that thing it says not to, and they lived to be 110 years old…’ well, that is not because they disobeyed, it was because of their being born strong and the other good things they had to eat at the same time. And from other factors, only IAUE knows. But that is not good reason to continue in the disobedience of our forefathers, because disobedience always causes destriment, and they would have been blessed so much more had they heeded all His ways. They may have lived to 130 or so, had they done these things, and been more healthy and spiritually-strong, I am sure of that. What we don’t know is traagic.

So heeding IAUE when He is the One who made us, Who said, “I am IAUE. That is My Name” being the first introduction and commandment to love Him, (correct identififcation is essential that is why He put it first, out there, to Abraham Moses, the people, and of course, Adam and Eve.) And the mere fact that we see how He repeatedly laments our destruction and perishing, (Yahushua cried over this unwillingness of the people’s hearts to follow the ways of life) because ‘we forget His Name’ for taking the ‘names of Baal’ instead! really should be a red flag, a high-alert. Anything our Creator says is to be followed. Yes, we have got to prove that it is not inserted there by man. (lying pens, be on the lookout for that) But when He repeately throughout the Scriptures -REPEATED this one thing, one fact – that our forgetting the Name of IAUE is the reason that we perish and languish, – is startling. It is so simple.

It is so simple, but people are steadfast in their presumptions by their priests. One man I spoke to yesterday knows that Yahushua commanded us to observe Passover in remembrance of him annually. He was from Haiti or someplace, I think. But he was not ashamed that his church he tried to get me to go to (I told him churches did not like what I believed, and that I would not go into a place of worship which had rejected the Creator and Son and had a cross at the head of their altar or place of high worship) and he said, ‘The wine communion has taken the place of Passover”. (It never occurred to him that this is a sin, for man to presume that they have the authority to ‘replace’ a commandment of IAUE with a tradition of man!). But in the Bible, I said to him, this is not the same as Passover, Passover is kept on a certain day every year and means more than just wine drinking for symbolic blood atonement, which other deities also did. By not using the name Yahushua, to specify IAUE’s (Yah’s) son, and by drinking wine and using the cross to identify their spirit/God, they actually only identified Bacchus/Dionysus/Tammuz. He said “We do it more than once a year: We do it every MONTH!” (He was super-impressed with that piousness). I said, Why don’t they acknowledge the Messiah and Creator of the Bible, that is only one Passover, once per year, and that is much easier, not every month, that is not what is said to us”. He just said ‘Things mean to different people different things”. Yes, they do, but is that supposed to mean everybody can do anything man changed and it is alright with IAUE? omg… this man showed the arrogance of humanity and it made me so sick, becuase he has not one doubt. Mankind’s priests really got this dude in slavery to them. He holds love of man over the ways of his own Creator.

Which you don’t, and never did, I am glad to note. Well, the thing about the publicaation above, The Sacred Name, Yahweh, by R. Clover, is that it is excellent, although there is one thing in it I would warn everyone here not to heed. In one of the later chapters, say, 16 or something, the author, R. Clover, does something astounding. He puts a personal interpretation or his own opinion AS BIBLICAL when IN FACT, IT IS ANTI-SCRIPTURAL. This is very harmful to the people to read, too, and they might not know that it is not at all Biblical. But everything else is totally Scriptural, I just wanted to make that clear that in one of the later chapters, he said something that is not true. But everything else is very very proven to be Biblical, historical, and totally in line with the teachings of IAUE. I will get the URL for you

and I am sorry for this so long, but I cannot come back here until much later to reply to all your points, Truthseeker, but wanted to leave this for your consideration and your study. I will be most glad to talk to you about it, it is a lot to digest, but it is fun and it is worth all the effort, because the guy who put it all together is a very good researcher.. (that’s why the personal opinion which is wrong, anti-scriptural, is so astounding. Like you said, Truthseeker, we can only seek out the truth on our own, this is also commanded, and our duty to search out the truth and prove all things, no man or group on earth has the total truth, all are mistaken in some thing… or some things…this is the challenge: to weed out the mistakes and find all the truth. ! You are up to it, believe me, Truthseeker. You are the man who can do this. I pray IAUE to help you and to guide you in your search for all His truths, for He loves you much more than you can imagine…so does your real Saviour the Messiah Yahushua

Praise be to Almighty IAUE for ever and ever for making all of you and giving you this hunger for the whole and unadulterated truth, Truthseeker. And thank you for your thoughtful and considerate, kind reply to my sometimes ramblings…you are patient and good…love
your sister Ingrid

.(meant: humble enough not to have to understand why He said for us to do some things, and not others, before doing them/not doing the things He said to/not to do. That should not be our standaard, (whether we understand it quite completely) because we are limited and it shows our lack of faith in Him and His ways and intentions. Our meagre understanding is pitiful anyway.

On the other hand, if we do thoe things, we are blessed. Not just in the area of that particular thing’s obedience, but in all ways, we are given more understanding, we are blessed with perception and wisdom from simply doing these things IAUE commanded us to do/not to do.
That is what He said would happen if we did. And vice versa: We see it all now, happening to the society – it is going crazy, it is madness, and whence is this madness? What is its source? Perhaps as He said it is being done to the people who do not intend ever to heed His Ways of Life, so they are being led into deep delusion and madness of soul/spirit/mind. I think we are seeing this play out, every day, more and more, faster and faster. The world’s people are gone mad.

According to Yah, this would be because of what they chose. We are in the day of multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision, especially now. It is serious as hell and heaven, eternal and forever their decisions impact them and their loved ones. Choose therefore this day, Life, saith IAUE as He did to the people surrounding Ezekiel. (vs Baals ways which are against truth and nature). So far, Baal’s ways have shown us nothing but evil, cruelty and madness, destruction and chaos. And it is not over yet…

He still pleads with us… every day. Let’s not grieve Him and His Messiah Yahushua any more than we have.

May IAUE help us all now, we need the protection and guidance only He and His Spirit of Truth and Life, with Yahushua, can give us.

Here is that URL, Truthseeker and everyone, but – again, please be warned about that wrong part in one of the later chapters. Everything else is excellent factual information we need to know, VITAL, and ESSENTIAL for ALL PEOPLE

http://www.yahweh.org/PDF_index1.html

Dear Natsal

I got only about 10 minutes here and so will print your reply and read it carefully later tonight.

I see that you mentioned Succot, Sukkot/th Booths, Tabernacles! I am so glad that you are aware these appointments are for us all, everyone, on earth from IAUE to us, forever to keep with Him, to honour Him, and His Messiah – a way to commune with them, as They command and taught while Yahushua was on earth.

I go by the dating method which is done by the Biblical, Yahueh-worshipping Karaite Jews. They do it by the physical sighting of the moon, the green ears of barley in Israel, and the crescent moon, which is more easy (not so impossible) for everyone to see as the way of reckoning the dates. As you probably know by the time you said you kept the Last Great Day, (which way do your people figure the date out, or date these Feasts? is there a website which would explain the difference ?)

I like the Karaites because they (although no, they don’t yet accept their Hebrew Messiah Yahushua, which is sad) they do acknowledge – against Traditional Judaism’s ‘Taboo’ from Babylonian priests’ teachings – the Father’s Name, IAUE (YHWH) so that to me, is a huge big deal from a Jew! – so that with the other facts they put forth which are rejected by the Rabbinical Judaists – (bound to manmade traditions for convenience and in full rejection of Yah) like the Biblical words instructing us how to find out the days to observe, per scriptures, make me think that they are the most close to the whole truth.

But I know not everyone has all the truth. So I would be interested to learn how you do the reckoning. (I assume it is by the new or dark, obscured moon then..?)

I do know there are questions in my mind regarding that. But this seems so far to me to be most logiical. Tell me what you think?

here is their site which explains the crescent moon vs. the obscure (dark) new moon for observances of times:

This ‘Last Great Day’ is the last appointed time this year, it began last night at sundown and ends tonight at sundown.

you can go to here to see the reason it is dated today: [link to http://www.karaite-korner.org

(not the Traditional Jew’s reckoning, which is their own way, not YAH’s way).

[link to http://www.karaite-korner.org

[link to http://www.karaite-korner.org

[link to http://www.karaite-korner.org

They are the most truthseeking Jews there are I think.

I wish all Chistians would just read this, study it, and just stop wasting time going to church and just begin to read the bible from beginning to end…
I know you know what I mean Natsal and Truthseeker.

How are you, Truthseeker? Well, I pray. They are closing here now,
Love to all of you,
IAUE may He bless you all and lead to all truths….

Shalom Dear People All,

Well, I miss you and hope and pray you are all well.

Couldn’t make it here for a long while, and am going to try to find that one special quote by that occultist/satanist about the hum, the sound, occuring at the time of the Rapture, I think for sure almost that it is Blavatsky, but I can not find it in any of what I look up… but I have it in some papers, so…somewhere…thank you for your kindness and if you find this, please could you post it for us? I think this is very important for all people to be aware of, and yet, no one is talking about this, the whole thing is being accepted by the churches without debate, study, or Biblical verses which are AGAINST any such rapture teaching, so Truthseeker’s post is hopefully being read and talked about by Christians who think their Church Leaders/Fathers are teaching them Biblical things. (NOT!)
Thank you again Truthseeker, and everyone here, May IAUE (Yahweh) bless you and protect you through all of this, and all those who need and want Him but don’t know anything about Him yet, may He, IAUE, Our Father, and Creator of the Universe – lead them to Him, His Messiah (The Word) and set the angels of warfare, deliverance and protection to them and guide them into all His ways and truths, as we are living in the end times which are very trying and precarious. I pray to Yahuweh/IAUe that He gives you all strength to endure to the end, and then, His Strong Right Arm Who Is Sent in the twinkling of an eye back to earth in judgement will take us back to the new beginning, on His Father’s terms – completely!!!!!
What a great day, what an awesome twinkling of a moment! Praise IAUE forever and ever, Thank you Father Yah…keep your people and have mercy on us forgiving our sins, help us thru this

That will be what all the earth has struggled, longed for, for all these miserable millennia.