Michael Levin: Reality Is an Illusion - Alien Intelligence, Biology, Life - Lex Fridman Podcast
This is a 30 November 2025 published video, host Lex Fridman talks with Michael Levin, a biologist at Tufts University who is working on novel ways to understand and control complex pattern formation in biological systems.
Complex pattern formation in biological systems is a process where cells organize themselves in space and time to create intricate structures, driven by mechanisms like gene expression, cell-cell interactions, and physical forces. Examples range from the segmentation of an embryo to the wrinkled patterns of bacterial biofilms and the branching of lungs, involving principles of self-organization, reaction-diffusion, and mechanical feedback loops.
https://youtu.be/Qp0rCU49lMs
OUTLINE:
0:00 – Introduction
0:44 – Biological intelligence
9:17 – Living vs non-living organisms
14:30 – Origin of life
18:15 – The search for alien life (on Earth)
51:19 – Creating life in the lab – Xenobots and Anthrobots
1:04:21 – Memories and ideas are living organisms
1:18:02 – Reality is an illusion: The brain is an interface to a hidden reality
2:03:48 – Unexpected intelligence of sorting algorithms
2:29:26 – Can aging be reversed?
2:33:17 – Mind uploading
2:51:57 – Alien intelligence
3:06:52 – Advice for young people
3:13:21 – Questions for AGI
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