Could standard model have anomalies after all?
I heard very interesting news from LHC (see this). The title of the post at Restoration Monk is “CERN Detects First-Ever Quantum Gravity Clues from Proton Collisions”.
The official narrative has been that the standard model works too well so that there are no signals serving as guide lines in attempts to extend the standard model. I have had difficulties with swallowing this story since this claim has been in conflict with what I have learned during years.
However, I learned now that over the past 10 years, deviations from both QCD and Standard Model physics, related to the supposed phase transition to quark gluon plasma, have been observed. The reports of these findings are scattered in literature. The article about these findings has been submitted for publication in The European Physical Journal.
The Google summary, which I obtained using the prompt “anomalous energy distributions in quark-gluon plasma events that deviate from predictions of both the Standard Model and supersymmetry” gives the following general data bits.
- The LHC experiments have observed unusual patterns in the energy distribution of particles within the quark-gluon plasma, a state of matter believed to have existed shortly after the Big Bang.
- There are deviations from Standard Model and Supersymmetry: These energy distribution patterns don’t match predictions from either the Standard Model, which describes fundamental particles and forces, or supersymmetry, a theoretical framework extending the Standard Model.
The proposal mentioned in the popular article is that the observed anomalous effects could relate to quantum gravity. This would require that Newton’s constant is renormalized to a very large value and looks to me unrealistic.
TGD inspired guess for the list of deviations
The above summary is very general and does not reveal any details. I have however worked with the problem of understanding the difference between TGD and standard model view for decades and it is relatively easy to fill in the details.
As a matter of fact, the deviations have been observed in what has been interpreted as a transition to quark plasma phase. They are familiar to me and they have emerged during a time period of about 20 years. I have discussed a large number of potential anomalies of the standard model from the TGD point of view (see this), in particular in the section “Still about quark gluon plasma and M89 physics”. TGD predicts a hierarchy of standard model physics and the ordinary M107 hadron physics and M89 hadron physics are only two examples of them. These standard model physics correspond to the hierarchy of color partial waves for quarks and leptons (see this, this and this).
The first deviations that I have commented on were reported by ALICE collaboration.
- RHIC had already observed around 2005 in heavy ion collisions that the phase assumed to be quark gluon plasma at quantum criticality for the formation of quark gluon plasma behaved almost like a perfect fluid cite{bpnu/surprise}. This was surprising. Around 2010 the same observation was made by LHC in proton-proton collisions.
- The popular article “ALICE collaboration measures the size of the fireball in heavy-ion collisions” (see this) appeared in CERN Courier 2111. The fireball served as a meson source and had elongated shape in the direction of the collision axes rather than being a spherical object: this suggests that string-like or meson-like object was in question. TGD interpretation was as a meson of M89 hadron physics.
- The second popular article (see this) in CERN COURIER from year 2113 talks about the observation of alice suggesting an double ridge structure consisting of two peaks in momentum space corresponding to opposite longitudinal momenta (see this). Also this suggests a string-like or meson-like structure.
The proposed TGD based interpretation was that the phase transition is not from hadron phase to quark gluon plasma but from ordinary M107 hadrons to M89 hadrons. In TGD, hadrons correspond to stringy objects made from monopole flux tubes and the stringy object could be a meson of M89 hadron physics for which the proton mass is 512 the mass of the ordinary proton. The hadrons of this physics would be dark in the sense that they would have heff/h=512 so that the size of the dark proton would be that of the ordinary proton. This would make possible geometric resonance.
In the TGD framework, leptons and quarks move in color partial waves and the color partial waves are different for different weak isospin values so that the charge asymmetry emerges at the fundamental level for color interactions.
The general TGD based view of standard model interactions
For years I have talked about the TGD based expansion of these findings but no one has listened. TGD predicts that the effects will appear in the TGD counterpart of the TGD counterpart of the transition to quark gluon plasma, which would in fact be the transition from M107 hadron physics to M89 hadron physics. In the recent TGD view of particle reactions (see this), the phase transition to the TGD analog of the quark gluon plasma without gluons occurs in any particle reaction and the reaction itself allows stringy description.
The general view of standard model interactions provided by TGD differs dramatically from the QCD view and also from the Standard Model picture and one might hope that the findings could provide convincing support for the TGD view.
- Space-time at the fundamental level consists of 4-surfaces X4 in H=M4× CP2 obeying holography= holomorphy principle (H-H), which reduces the field equations to local algebraic conditions. Theory is exactly solvable.
- Color is not a spin-like quantum number as in QCD but analogous to orbital angular momentum in CP2 and characterizes both leptons and quarks. Arbitrarily high color partial waves are possible.
- All particles are bound states of fundamental fermions. Colored fermions as modes of Dirac equation in H have mass of order CP2 mass (∼ 10-4 MPl) but color singlet many quark states and leptons are light and correspond to the particles observed in the laboratory.
- By H-H, the Dirac equation in X4 for the induced spinors in induced spinor structure allows massless quarks and leptons. This phase is the analog of the quark-gluon phase: gluons are not however present, just fundamental fermions. The interaction region for the collision of particles corresponding to 4-D space-time surfaces with the same generalized complex structure is the intersection of the space-time surfaces consisting of string world sheets so that a stringy description of interactions emerges. TGD generalizes the QCD type description of scattering to all interactions.
- Color and electroweak interactions are very closely related since CP2 isometries correspond to SU(3) and holonomies of CP2 correspond to U(2) identifiable as a subgroup of SU(3). One can say that electroweak interactions are color interactions in electroweak spin degrees of freedom and color partial waves are analogous to angular momentum degrees of freedom. The prediction that color coupling strength is 9 times the electroweak coupling strenght is correct.
One proposed explanation for the findings made during 10 years in terms of gravitons might have some empirical justification. In the TGD framework, a natural counterpart of graviton would be emission of spin=2 meson of M89 hadron physics.
Basic misunderstandings of TGD generated by large language models
One might think that for a scientific dissident the large language models are a God’s gift making communications mere child’s play. Unfortunately, this does not seem to be the case.
Quite recently we tested with Marko Manninen GPT (see this) by making prompts related to TGD and asking for killer arguments. The responses involve dramatic misunderstandings due to the conditioning of GPT to the standard model orthodoxy.
- One wrong claim of GPT was that M89 hadrons would have been observed long ago. This is of course not true: very special conditions are required to guarantee the quantum criticality for the transition to M89 hadron physics.
- Second claim was that cosmic strings, which in TGD are space-time surfaces with 2-D M4 projection. GPT confused TGD cosmic strings with GUT strings and they are indeed excluded empirically.
- A third fatal mistake of GPT was that the TGDbased topological explanation of family replication phenomenon (see this) implies an infinite number of fermion families. There is a nice argument supporting the prediction of only 3 families.
See the chapter New Particle Physics Predicted by TGD: Part I.
For a summary of earlier postings see Latest progress in TGD.
For the lists of articles (most of them published in journals founded by Huping Hu) and books about TGD see this.
Source: https://matpitka.blogspot.com/2025/07/could-standard-model-have-anomalies.html
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