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By Lisa Haven
We all know Christian persecution was promised in these “latter days” but we didn’t realize how soon it would arrive on U.S. soil.
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(simply because you “confess” it does not mean you actually are, the devil has deceived many of his own children to believe they are Christians 2Tim 3:5)
#1 “ONE” not triune: THE ANTI CHRIST….WHERE? WHERE?….EVERYWHERE!!! …..IT”S YOU O TRINITARIAN!
“WHO” it was (what person) that came “IN THE FLESH”, IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE “ANT-CHRIST”! Even Islam claims Jesus was the Jewish messiah/Christ who was to come in the flesh) they all deny “WHO” it was (what person) that came (to be the Christ) in the flesh!?!…….To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh! https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/part-6-anti-christ-where-everywhere-allen-daves?trk=mp-reader-card
JOHN 14: 8-20 where Christ specifically identifies himself (his person as the person of both the father and the HS; the only distinction is in “location” and “method of manifestation” …….Note Isaiah 9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: …: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, … the everlasting Father ….The son, father/Holy Spirit are all the same person, NOT like two different persons working together even as “one flesh” ….The “oneness” between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man & his wife, for only a fool would say “When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?” Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..“HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip…..Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? You want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you don’t know me!?!?! https://www.scribd.com/doc/305367608/The-Trinity-Heresy
Jn 14 continued….…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU… (future tense “In them”) 18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Note: The spirit of Christ is the sprit of God and the holy spirit that is why Christ said “I will come to you” (to comfort them, because Christ is the comforter). The spirit was standing next to them in flesh… ….latter it would come to them to be inside of them (inside of their flesh as the spirit we are given)…..that is why. he would send the spirit…… However, Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you”
The whole point to Gal 3:20.a mediator is NOT A MEDIATOR OF ONE, (HEIS) but GOD IS ONE. (HEIS) again, point blank, identifies the number of persons of God! The “but” points out the contrast between multiple persons in a mediation party v the “one” of God. God is not like a mediation party with multiple different persons. …..”the express image of his person” ( the person of God; singular not plural).Any attempt to lay claim otherwise is willful ignorance and delusional nonsense https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/part-1-echadechadmy-godgod-echad-allen-daves?trk=mp-reader-card
NOTE: don’t be that one in prov 26:12 over my use of the word “fool” here prov 18:13 (https://www.scribd.com/presentation/322007258/Fools ) “But but, the gospel of John…the Gospel of John …look look…” which is quite ironic since the gospel of John does not leave ANY room for multiple different persons of Jesus and father. However the gospel of John does leave a few verses that facilitate God’s promise in 2 Thess 2:11/ Isaiah 66:4 (take note of “HAND” in verse 2,14..You just can’t make this stuff up…God is surely laughing at these fools; Ps 2:1&4)
……Mark 12:28…Which is the first commandment of all? 29. …Hear, O Israel; THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD: 30. And ………..this is the first commandment….. 31. And the second is…..
JESUS IS GOD AND IS THE FULLFILMENT OF ALL THE LAW AND PROPHETS SO IF YOU CAN’T GET THIS “FIRST OF ALL COMMANDMENTS” RIGHT, ALL THE REST OF YOUR “FAITH” AND PREACHING ON SIN IS MOOT
TRINITARIANS CONFESS JESUS /THEY ARE NOT POLYTHEIST BUT ARE MONOTHEIST LIKE A LIAR & THIEF WHO “CONFESS” THEY DO NOT LIE OR STEAL The simple fact is that just because you confess or deny that you are in an adulterous relationship and denounce all forms of adultery has nothing to do with whether or not it is in fact adulterous! .. …A rose by any other name is still just a rose AND calling it a water lily does not change the definition of what a water Lilly or a rose is either!…No, Trinitarians confess & preach literally …”ANOTHER JESUS” 2 Cor 11:4
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/part-2-pgs-91-101-chapter-eight-lets-talk-us-allen-daves?trk=mp-reader-card
- Like a thief in your house caught stealing your things insisting he was not there stealing “I CONFESS I am NOT stealing”. You just do not “properly understand” what he is doing/saying. Further, since you never had a “proper understanding” of what he is doing/saying you have no business accusing him since you do not even know what you are talking about in the first place. It is with and in your own ignorance that you base your “false accusations” & “ad homonym attacks” against him…… Ridiculous of course it is ……2Thess 2:11; Titus 1:16; 2Tim 3:5;
- A Favorite tool for pathological liars is to use incongruent definitions or create oxymorons out of synonyms such as “a person” and “a being” so as to claim that your god is THREE DIFFERENT PERSONS but ONLY ONE BEING: Which is (1) no different then trying to claim that “THREE DIFFERENT CARS” is “THE ONE VEHICLE” (2) blatant demonstration of the dishonesty & sorcery these children of hell will employ with “a strait face” (which is in part what it means to be a pathological liar)
……but, ah i remember how this game is played… “God is three in one” (or 1in 3 or 3in one et al) should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden…God said you will die…Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE……today .God said He is one; but Satan’s children come along and say no three is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect: “NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons”. Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions and vain imaginations have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into your image!
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#2 SECOND COMING Thou Fool! “I come quickly” so “Hold fast
till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 yrs I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in the war of AD70 are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8/ you cant love an appearing you deny& the context is the 2nd coming not the first)… Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And
they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES.
2Thess 2: 11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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#3 There is a sharp contrast between THREE groups :
(1) “PREDESTINED DAMNED” who were NEVER written in the book of life ………..Rev 17: 8 WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, …as contrasted …EPH 1: 4. According as he hath CHOSEN US in him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD
(2) “MANY CALLED”= ONLY and ALL SAINTS (those who come to Christ) are written in the book of life … Philippians 4:3… ……Rev 21:27; (Only saints are Called and elect; Rom 1:6-7 et al) This is THE CHRUCH and ONLY these can have their names blotted out of the book of life ….….Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn … WHICH ………are WRITTEN in heaven,
(3) THE FEW CHOSEN: Those saints who were alive in group #2 who are now physically dead. They died “faithful” these are the FEW that were chosen faithful…….Rev 3:5. ……; and I
will not BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, (Ps 69:28) …. These are the FEW that are CHOSEN and now that they have died and are saved then “once saved THEY CAN NEVER BE LOST”
Predestination….its true..its all true…download here
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Jesus did not pray to himself in Gethsemane.
He did not ask himself for mercy on the cross.
2 sentences, is all, and not a bible verse in sight. You just KNOW it.
Revelation 7 puts to an end, of the Saints being the only earthlings in Heaven. Why did you fall for that? Millions of people are in Heaven already (via rapture) before the Saints even arrive.
You think too much. You talk even more. You don’t reason at all. You just take assumptions and conclusions of one fallen head, and spew it all over the Internet. Well done.
I just read all that backwards and apart from sounding like Yoda you can still read it and all the meaning changes.
Here comes Hodor again, saying (copy/pasting) the same thing over and over again.
“Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.”
– Matt 10:32-33
I respect that you want the freedom of speech, and to proselytize — even as though your salvation rests on that — but you could have accomplished the same, physical goals, with a little more subtlety.
I self-identify as Christian, and I am in favor of enlightened self-interest. Sorry, not sorry.
no problem—no need to be sorry…we all just know your insane–just like goatsdick—he is more insane and truly full of shit-they must let him out of his padded cell every day to talk to his family online..instead he gets on bin and lets the bullshit fly..god does not read the bible -never has–never will–god did not write either–some delusional dudes in a cave wrote it–the word of men–not god–humans could never understand god–they are too petty,immature,hateful,judgemental–need prove? just read all the bullshit goatsdick writes–he is satans agent–he and lucifer are lovers–he is one judgemental asshole
oh,forgot,salvation is for all,everyone,or hell would already be full..full of bible thumpers,christians because of their evil judgementals ways
dear b4:
i PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST on you, so as that you may be healed.
i command the demons out of you, and bind them, in THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
you dare use words as “hateful,judgemental”?.. you mean, like you are? [freudian: projection].
you need JESUS CHRIST to heal you.
prayers and blessings that you open your eyes, ears, heart and mind before it is too late for you..
tosser.
You are getting paranoid like Dave Hodges. Only thing he quit calling the sodomite negro “president” when corrected. Now I’m a fan!
Bible “prophesy” ?
Who FABRICATED the Bible ?
Wasn’t it the “joos”, using source materials available at the LIBRARY in Alexandria.
So….BIBLICAL PROPHESY ….may well be little more than ….. joo-WISH…aka…..SATANIC AGENDA…..planned… LONG AGO.
dear LIE:
i PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST on you, so as that you may be healed.
i command the demons out of you, and bind them, in THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
on behalf of ALL my fellow, true born~again christians brothers and sisters in~CHRIST, who may not know BIBLICALLY how to combat people like you, this is your final warning from THE LORD, through me, to you: Matthew 10:14~15; I Timothy 1:3,5; II Timothy 3:5 and Titus 3:9~11.
regarding your god-hate and other hate-speech: if you claim “LIE”, then why are you going to places where GOD
is spoken of? !hypocrite!
I John 2:22: ‘who is the liar? that person that denies that JESUS is the CHRIST. he is an antichrist, that denies THE
FATHER and THE SON’.
if you do not respect truth, and THE TRUE GOD, then that is your choice. perish. leave. go revel with your demons in your final moments of life in a closet; because you will be spending ALL ETERNITY with those same demons- only they will be tormenting you non-stop- as you torment believers of JESUS CHRIST!
BE lovingly WARNED!
please stop your anti-BIBLE and christian falsehoods.
Are you out on day release?
If you believe In religion you are all fruit and nut cases.
Reigion is scaremongering and control of the masses.
The bible is only an man written book of basic morals in life to adhere to.
Highway code as to driving a car,simple rules so you do not hurt others or cause a crash.
I will live a happy life and not worry about scaremongers and when I die I will either sleep a long time or become aware again.
Who knows NOBODY has never come back from the dead to tell us yet
dear noLIGHT-take the beam out of your own eye:
i PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST on you, so as that you may be healed.
i command the demons out of you, and bind them, in THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
on behalf of ALL my fellow, true born~again christians brothers and sisters in~CHRIST, who may not know BIBLICALLY how to combat people like you, this is your final warning from THE LORD, through me, to you: Matthew 10:14~15; I Timothy 1:3,5; II Timothy 3:5 and Titus 3:9~11.
regarding your god-hate and other hate-speech: if you claim “anti-religion”, then why are you going to places where GOD is spoken of? !hypocrite!
I John 2:22: ‘who is the liar? that person that denies that JESUS is the CHRIST. he is an antichrist, that denies THE
FATHER and THE SON’.
if you do not respect truth, and THE TRUE GOD, then that is your choice. perish. leave. go revel with your demons in your final moments of life in a closet; because you will be spending ALL ETERNITY with those same demons- only they will be tormenting you non-stop- as you torment believers of JESUS CHRIST!
BE lovingly WARNED!
please stop your anti-BIBLE and christian falsehoods.
You need to take a brain stem test you moron.
Protestants are not Christians.
BALONEY!!! HOGWASH!!!! WHAT A CROCK!!!
If you have the Holy Spirit living in you, then you are a Christian. Does NOT matter whether Protestant, non-denominational, or Catholic. Afterall it was the Catholic political religion based on ancient paganism that still reigns to this very day. Luther, etc., realizing this broke away from Rome.
Sorry goatdale nobody has time in their life to read your longwinded rant get a real job quit wasting everyone’s time
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU RELIGIOUS NUTS?
If i started to worship the spotted soup dragon god you would think i was insane wouldn’t you.
Well, there is as much(or as little)evidence for the soup dragon as there is for any one of the thousands of deities
that mankind has prostrated themselves to over the millenia.
What goes on in your mind that you actually believe any of this nonsense?
What is wrong with YOU???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL those mocking religion per se are looking at it as if science is fact. If you just dare to ask Jesus to show you he is real he will. There are 2,000 promises in the Bible. The Holy Spirit is VERY REAL. You can feel his presence in your body. But you have to confess and turn away from your sins, asking forgiveness, then ask him to come into your heart. He certainly will…………….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t be so silly. It’s all in your mind.
You just think jesus talks to you, in the same way that muslims truly believe mohammed speaks to them,
the same way the romans thought zeus was in their heart,and the egyptians truly thought that horus was on their side.
‘Hello jebus are you there?’…wait…nope, nothing,funny that.
The truly hilarious thing is that you ALL think your particular deity is the right one don’t you, not like those loony muslims or those stupid hindus. what on earth are they doing worshipping the wrong god !
dear nogod:
i PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST on you, so as that you may be healed.
i command the demons out of you, and bind them, in THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
on behalf of ALL my fellow, true born~again christians brothers and sisters in~CHRIST, who may not know BIBLICALLY how to combat people like you, this is your final warning from THE
LORD, through me, to you: Matthew 10:14~15; I Timothy 1:3,5; II Timothy 3:5 and Titus 3:9~11.
please stop your anti-BIBLE and christian falsehoods.
you are seen consistently, throughout beforeitsnews, on christian~related articles spewing your god-hate and other hate-speech.
if you claim “plsnogod”, then why are you going to places where GOD is spoken of? !hypocrite!
that’s like a hateful, evil atheist walking into a church and then complaining that people are discussing JESUS.
if you do not respect truth, and THE TRUE GOD, then that is your choice. perish. leave. go revel with your demons in your final moments of life in a closet; because you will spending ALL ETERNITY with those same demons- only they will be tormenting you non-stop- as you torment believers of JESUS CHRIST!
BE lovingly WARNED!
if i see any of your false-BIBLE and false-christian diatribes one more time, not only will i ‘shake the dust of my feet against you; as a testimony against you’, but i will command
that you be muted in THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
PLEASE DO NOT make me do that; nor make THE LORD honor that command.
You foul, ignorant religious bully.
You epitomise why religion is so toxic. You believe in an imaginary ”being” with absolutely NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER. The you proceed to threaten people with dire consequences for not believing in said mythical figure.
I am pleased you have posted your foul and ridiculous remarks. It shows your twisted,lunatic,and sick mind perfectly. ”Be lovingly warned” says everything about your mentality(or lack of it).
I am able to think for myself, but people like you have bullied the weak,meek and dumb for millenia, spreading not only nonsense,but also death torture and destruction on the way. You are a disgrace to our species,and you do not deserve being a member of it.
You can take your barmy deity,along with all the rest,and shove it up where the sun shinest not.
Ain’t he a charmer though?
I’ve tried to question james amen, a time or two, and got the exact same result…
“PLEASE DO NOT make me do that; nor make THE LORD honor that command”
… so that puts you and me in the same boat? Surely not!
Zealots abound and i have no difficulty picturing this guy on a street corner holding a cardboard sign and ranting about the end being nigh.
it wasn’t too long ago that the democratic party majority city council of Houston, Texas, passed an ordinance about hate speech. To enforce it, they insisted that every pastor and church in the city must send in every sermon they preach to that it can be reviewed to see if there is any evidence of hate speech. The pastors in the city refused and began a peaceful civil disobedience campaign to expose this outrage. The liberals, democrats, socialists, and atheists on the city council backed down.
It won’t be long before these people turn Houston, once one of the most prosperous cities in the country, into the “Detroit of the South”.
Your point is nonsensical.
be muted in THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Hey asshole, i’m still here, and i talked to my wife not two minutes ago.
So much for your non-exist jesus huh!
I really hope you do not have children. What an awful,indoctrinated painful life they would lead.
I’m still here you weirdo! The dog looked up when i spoke to him, so I’m not muted yet.
I’m waiting you nutbag….
@plsnogod
Way to Acts 19:16 his arse
and just so you know that was God using you for His purpose.
Don’t you hate it when that happens?
I too was worried we were going to have to send out a search party for our favorite godless one — to verify his safety.
But then I remembered, James Amen promised he would permanently shut my mouth as well, and that it should all have happened some time ago.
Glad to see you’re still among us, plsnogod. The BINS wouldn’t be the same without our occasional sword-crossings!!!
I just talked to someone of the phone, and they seemed to hear me okay.
Is your jesus on lunch?
Jesus is right where He always is. It’s that He probably doesn’t like James Amen very much.
Things The LORD HATES:
…haughty eyes… (check)
…a lying tongue… (check)
…a false witness who pours out lies… (check and check)
You know, for a pretty short list James, you’re spreading yourself across it most effectively.
Apologies for treatment you’ve endured at the hands of a so-called Christian, plsnogod. That sort of nonsense isn’t good for anyone and makes your job way too easy. You seem like the kind of fella who actually enjoys a challenge when he comes to ‘work’.
I’m still here james nutjob.
Still not muted.
When will it happen????
Is it a bank holiday up there?
Is this a piece of your brain on the floor?
my point is that this is how persecution begins…they define hate speech as teaching biblical morality, and anyone who dares to even whisper that the people who are practicing gross immorality these days are under the judgment of God are therefore practicing hate speech.
Here are some examples of this:
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/preacher-arrested-for-calling-homosexuality-a-sin.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/7668448/Christian-preacher-arrested-for-saying-homosexuality-is-a-sin.html
http://www.christianheadlines.com/columnists/al-mohler/the-bible-as-hate-speech-gays-win-big-in-canada-1220787.html
BIBLICAL MORALITY????
It is one of the most hate-filled immoral collection of ramblings every scribed and multi-mistranslated.
It clearly urges murder,slavery,genocide and a multitude of awful things that,as a human being,i would never even contemplate. It tops all that by advocated a human sacrifice,killed in an abominable way, to teach us all a lesson.
A human being does not need a list of medieval,man-invented ‘rules’ in order to know what is right or wrong.
The very fact of an avalanche of death,torture and destruction done on behalf of this book should be evidence enough of it’s evil message.
Yes, plsnogod, absolute morality as opposed to subjective morality.
What do you offer as evidence that…
“A human being does not need a list of medieval,man-invented ‘rules’ in order to know what is right or wrong.”
… surely you can’t mean the world we see on the news every day?
And an “avalanche” would more accurately describe Stalin’s 78 million as compared to the 1.3 million deaths that can be attributed to God’s command.
For example: when critics raise the Amalekite genocide (Exodus 17) they conveniently leave out the fact that it was the 7th or 8th time the Amalekites had stood against Israel. How many times, plsnogod, would your lot allow Russia or China to attack before the USA pushed back? All of the wars in the Bible are easily justified using nothing more than the historical and archaeological records. Try me.
Oh and evidence…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-7Jol1VDbI
… you don’t care for evidence so stop pretending you do.
ah my little lapdog has found me again
listen child,you have nothing(and no-one,judging by the amount of time you spend following me around).
we have done at length the evidence bit.
you don’t have any !
now be good and go away and pray, or whatever you people do.
What you call “doing at length” other folk might see differently. Anyone stumbling upon our exchanges won’t have to read far to see you posture and pout your way into an ignominious retreat.
Anytime you want to debate – Is creation a viable model of origins – just say the word.
yes, Biblical Morality….it is always a shock when humanists discover that God has a system of absolute morals….what was wrong when Moses wrote the 10 commandments 3500 years ago is still wrong these days and will be still wrong 3500 years from now…chew on that, and try not to break a tooth…
the alternative is the system of relativistic morals the atheists and humanists use. This system is so changeable and shifty that it amounts to not having a moral system at all…
you need a good working moral compass. yours is defective or missing.
Mayhem wrote:
“All of the wars in the Bible are easily justified using nothing more than the historical and archaeological records.”
To say nothing of the genealogical tampering done to the breeds God ordered exterminated. He frowns upon outside sources tinkering with His creation — a lesson modern day science-ists and Monsanto engineers are hell-bent on ignoring.
And this:
“How many times, plsnogod, would your lot allow Russia or China to attack before the USA pushed back?”
I don’t think he’s a Murkin, Captain Kiwi. My sense is that he lives somewhere beneath the shadow of her majesty’s royal escutcheon!!!
As for you two, you seem to have an inordinant amount of time to patrol these pages,since you always seem to find my very occasional posts.
I realise you think you are doing it for ‘the lord’.
However you are like those barmy ‘sharia patrols’ that are popping up all over europe
(or should i say the late europe).
Trying to have a discussion with you,and i think we recorded one of the longest ever on BIN some time ago, is like trying to fill a holey bucket-no pun intended.
No matter how much water one pours in, it all gushes out the bottom saying ‘god did it,god did it,god did it,god did it,god did it,god did it…
Irrational doctrine is not something than can be tested. It is all in the mind.
Fair enough, i’ll leave you to enjoy it. Whatever your crazy adherents have done in the past,you do actually seem to be relatively benign at the present.
It is the expanding tumour of islam that the whole world has to combat right now.
They are outbreeding us,and they are better at indoctrination,and they are a further step away from reason by dint of the fact mo-paedo-hammed told them it is fine to marry first cousins.
The ‘special’ hospitals all over europe are filling up with retarded and handicapped muslim children, which we of course have to pay for, which gives us less money to spend on countering the jihaddi’s which infest our cities.
So my friends, though i believe your deity is just as baseless as the many thousands of others, i do suggest your energy would be better spent on the big fat retarded muslim elephant in the room.
I can’t help noticing, plsnogod, that you are up for debate…
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… when you perceive a weak target.
What’s the matter, big guy, afraid of where the evidence might lead?
evidence.hmm.
That’s right, evidence, like this…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK8qeyPYsjg
… unless, of course, this is just another ignorant fool who didn’t get your memo about the Bible being made up by semi literate cave dwellers.
“I realise you think you are doing it for ‘the lord’.”
Um, godless one? You think we think Jesus sent us to the BIN? Guess again. This dump is more of a guilty pleasure – though increasingly light on pleasure lately with all the tech glitches – and with the occasional opportunity to engage in meaningful dialogue.
“Irrational doctrine is not something than can be tested.”
Of course irrational doctrine can be tested. Everything can be. But Scripture is neither irrational nor is it beyond our ability to test. You just preclude yourself from testing on account of hyper-arrogance and hyper-laziness. You’re just not interested in actually doing the work because you think you already have all the answers.
“Whatever your crazy adherents have done in the past…”
People who scream and curse and kill in the name of the Lord are all liars. Kind of like Mr. James Amen right here on this board – he comes in his own name and has no interest in doing the things asked of him by the written Word.
“It is the expanding tumour of islam that the whole world has to combat right now.”
Even Bill Maher agrees with you. There is no comparison between Christianity and Islam. One is a dire, imminent threat – the other isn’t, never was and never will be.
“…mo-paedo-hammed told them it is fine to marry first cousins.”
He changed his mind on that over the course of the Koran’s authorship. He also reversed himself and said it’s okay to marry the daughter of your own adopted son. (Because he became smitten with his own adopted son’s daughter. Making the rules up as you go is a hallmark of the illegitimate, but we find that this trait is never exhibited in the Old and New Testaments – even over the period of fifteen hundred years of authorship. Mohammed ‘dictated’ only over the course of his own adult life.)
“…the big fat retarded muslim elephant in the room.”
There’s a big fat retarded Muslim elephant in the room? Oh, you mean MAYHEM…
…who wrote:
“I can’t help noticing, plsnogod, that you are up for debate … when you perceive a weak target.”
And don’t think for a second Mayhem’s the only one who’s noticed.