Kim Jong Un Psychological Profiler on China & Most Disturbing Patient - Ken Dekleva (Video)
In this 21 July 2025 video, host Julian Dorey talks with Dr. Kenneth Dekleva, a former physician-diplomat with the U.S. State Department and a Professor of Psychiatry at UT Southwestern Medical Center. He is also a senior fellow at the George H. W. Bush Foundation for U.S.-China Relations and the author of two novels, The Negotiator’s Cross and The Last Violinist.
https://youtu.be/PSkYiJPpt8I
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 – Ken’s Past Guests, Starting in Moscow, Truth About US Diplomats
09:23 – Intro to Psychiatry, Jim Grigson, Forensic Evaluation Techniques
20:45 – Ken’s Most Intense Case, Prison Psychiatry Reality, “Nothing Human is Alien”
32:45 – Having Empathy for Monsters, Emotional Toll, Evaluating Inmates
41:24 – Causes of Predatory Urges, Shocking Classmate Reveal, Catholic Scandals
49:33 – POW Camp Stories, Parents Meeting Post-WWII, Love for Language and History
57:35 – Why Psychiatry, Ken’s Biggest Influence, Most Brilliant Interviewer Ever Met
01:07:31 – Trait of Elite Interviewers, Joining State Department
01:15:47 – First Day in Moscow, Love for Russia, Stress of Diplomatic Work
01:26:41 – Why People Distrust Psychiatrists, Balancing Career & Marriage Abroad
01:32:51 – Benefits for Kids Raised Overseas
01:37:06 – Havana Diplomats, Monthly Parties, Falling Into Geopolitics
01:47:49 – Presenting w/ Jerrold Post, Karadžić’s Shift, T4 Program, Why Humans Do Evil
01:59:02 – Studying Putin, Evil in Human Nature, Social Media’s Dark Path
02:03:27 – Challenging Radical Beliefs, Stalin “Revival”, Kim Jong Un
02:18:01 – Profiling Xi Jinping, His Father’s Story, Rumors of Xi’s Fall, China’s AI Race
02:26:25 – Retaining Foreign Talent, New Cold War, Kai-Fu Lee, National Space Heroes
02:35:32 – The Most Evil Mind Ken Studied, Social Media, Mental Health & Pandemic Fallout
02:45:52 – Staying Tied to Government, Working with Cancer Patients, Human Side of Medicine
02:56:38 – Does Ken Fear Death?
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