The Mystery Of The Out-Resurrection
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Ok Mike, I apologize for my comment in your earlier article and agree with you here.
Thanks Desert Owl, I always like it when I am in agreement with people. I don’t mind disagreements so much either, as long as they are done in the right spirit. No apology needed, I was not offended by your question.
ἐκ νεκρῶν ἀναστῇ
This simply denotes ‘resurrection FROM the dead.’ ἐκ and ἀναστῇ never form the singular thought you indicate of ‘out resurrection.’ νεκρῶν (nekron – or, ‘of the dead’) always separates the two words to give the effective translation – resurrection from the dead. In literal translations (such as the rendering provided by scripture 4 all dot org), ἐκ is translated as ‘out’, but the meaning is still the same considering the word order.
That’s really the only (very minor) technical aspect I can disagree with you on (other than your use of Messiah’s Greek ‘substitution’ name, which you are no doubt tired of arguing about. Despite the message that you have expounded here being stated very clearly in several places in Scripture, it is unlikely that folks will hear anything you have said.
Minds are made up. The Apostle Paul himself (as you mentioned) on more than one occasion expressed concern that he himself would not be a ‘race-winner’ and would have run in vain. No matter. Those who claim they know the exact day and hour wherein they were ‘saved’ will not be receptive to your simple message. This is by no means meant to impugn your efforts, of course. One never knows. There still might be some fertile ground out there somewhere.
And here is the end parentheses I owe you from my comment above.
We pays what we owes:
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Exanastasis is one Greek word found in Phil. 3:11. Here is W.E. Vine’s definition of exanastasis:
“Ek, “from” or “out of,” and anastasis, Phl 3:11, followed by ek, lit., “the out-resurrection from among the dead.”
I am unfamiliar with the order of your words “ek nekron anaste”. Where does this order occur?
Thank you for your comments. I really appreciate your thoughts on this.
Here is a link to an interlinear which provides everything from Genesis to Revelation; Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek, plus transliteration, plus literal translation, plus KJV translation:
http://www.scripture4all.org/
Another good site you can use to see all of the verses from the NT in Greek is:
http://www.greekbible.com/
This site provides definitions and lexicography as well.
Defining the phrase as “the out-resurrection from among the dead” seems problematic because there is apparently two usages of the same word ‘ek’ in the translation. To say: ‘out from’ is a redundancy in this case, no? Resurrection FROM (or ‘of’) seems to cover it. I do not think it is appropriate to employ the term ‘ek’ to distinguish the Resurrection of the Just from the General Resurrection, mainly because I do not think Messiah intended to distinguish the first resurrection by calling it the ‘out resurrection.’
What you mean by ‘out resurrection’ no doubt exists according to the written Word, but I don’t think the terminology is accurate.
The main thing we lack with tools like Strong’s Concordance and E-Sword is word order. Word order often makes a key difference. Let me know what you think.
BEEF SUPREME, how would you explain the apparent confusion the disciples had over the Lords use of the term?
There was confusion in the disciples then in much the same way that we are still confused at this time. Do you know how many resurrections there are? Most folks will tell you there is only one. In your article, you have discussed two. But upon careful examination of the verses of Scripture, we can find three.
We can see this reflected in the feast schedule. There are many reasons why it is important to have a sound understanding of the three major moedim (appointed times / feast dates) each year. These dates are still to be observed to this day, as we can see plainly by the fact that the apostles continued to observe these feasts long after Messiah had died, had been resurrected, and had ascended. Observance of these feasts (part of an eternal covenant) is still in force to this day; and will be at least until the Heavens and the Earth pass away.
The feasts are harvest festivals. The harvest of the produce of the land is a sign (a type) for the harvest of men. After Passover, the first-fruits offering is made. The first-fruits offering is made on the day Messiah was resurrected, which is the day following the first Sabbath after the Feast of Unleavened bread. Messiah was sacrificed, rested on the Sabbath (the Seventh Day), and was raised on the day of the first-fruits offering (the Eighth Day — the day and the hour of which no man knoweth) made by the Temple Priests. The first harvest is the barley harvest.
Then, 50 days after the first Sabbath after the feast of Unleavened Bread (Unleavened Bread is not a Sabbath, but is a Sabbaton — a holy convocation with no servile work permitted. On a Sabbath there is no work permitted whatsoever) comes the Feast of Shavuot (the Feast of Weeks — also known as Pentecost; the pentacontad or 50-day count). Shavuot is the wheat harvest. This is the second resurrection — also known as the general resurrection. There will be judgment for those resurrected at this harvest. There will be punishment for crimes committed and there will be penalties assessed for trespasses. Judgment does not mean condemnation. Those who are judged by no means perish. They will pay what they owe. The price will be steep.
The final major feast appointment on the annual schedule (note: the Almighty has His own Calendar. We cannot hope to find the correct days for these appointed times if we are not keeping His Calendar. The rabbis in Jerusalem are most decidedly NOT keeping His Calendar. His Calendar is not a lunar calendar) is the Feast of Sukkot (or booths / tabernacles). This is the wine harvest. The grapes are harvested and they are trampled in the winepress (these are the grapes of wrath). The THIRD RESURRECTION is the Resurrection of the Wicked. The wicked are resurrected to the wrath of the Almighty:
Who is He that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? This that is glorious in His apparel, traveling in the greatness of His strength? I that speak righteousness, mighty to save.
Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treaddeth the winefat?
I have trodden the winepress alone: And of the people there was none with Me: For I will tread them in Mine anger, and trample them in My fury: And their blood shall be sprinkled upon My, and I will strain all My raiment.
Isaiah 63:1-3
Are we (the Body of Messiah) yet confused about this distinction today? We most certainly are. Adding to the confusion is the fact that we are taught by our ‘leaders’ that the feasts are no longer to be kept. Nowhere in Scripture is any such thing EVER written. If the disciples had only just heard that there is to be more than one resurrection, it is not surprising that there was confusion about the official particulars. The confusion remains even to this day.
Thank you for your comment.
I am very familiar with the prophetic aspects of the Feasts. My emphasis was on the two resurrections at the end of this age, but I did mention the third in my article. Jesus and those saints that arose after his resurrection are the First Fruits. Math. 27:52&53 “And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.”